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0202 – Points of View from Jerusalem

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[Translation of the video:]

“Students from ‘ORT’ school in the Ramot neighborhood of Jerusalem, a neighborhood in which live secular [Jews] and Haredim received a final notice last Thursday [January 16] that their school will be closing.

‘This is the last school left. The rest of the schools in this area are ‘Talmud Torah’ schools. Ramot’s secular residents will leave.’

The Jerusalem municipality is planning to open a Haredi school where the current school is located.

‘If they close the school, Ramot is lost.’

In the past, Ramot B was one of the neighborhoods with a higher concentration of secular residents, and for many years, ‘Ort Ramot’ school was a central symbol of secularism in the city.”

– Channel 10 News, posted in Jerusalemites FB group.

[Selected Comments:]

– "Slowly, like thieves in the night, they steal from us, and it’s not only the neighborhood or city, they have invaded the entire country. If they go sailing on the Yarkon [river in Tel Aviv], where half naked women train, what will be left. Really frightening."

– [Ruthie Malul:] "The Haredim are not monsters or animals! The change in the character of the neighborhood should be blamed on the secular [person] that runs away when a Haredi moves in next to them, without even getting to know him, and frees up an apartment for another Haredi. I’m a Haredi woman, a human just like you, and the discussion here disgusts me. It hurts that a school that was active for years closes, but again, the ones to blame are the residents that up and left. It’s a pity for me, I love a mixed neighborhood, there’s something beautiful about it."

– [In response to Ruthie Malul:] “Either you are simply ignorant, or you make yourself out to be so. These are not angels. A secular person drives on the Sabbath, he eats non-kosher food (and enjoys it), he or she dress in clothes that are not exactly modest, they go with their heads uncovered, use their barbecue during the Sabbath [1] […] They live a free life without preoccupying themselves synagogue life or the Wailing Wall… Mrs Ruthie Malul, the Haredis came to the secular neighborhood Ramot and as a part of that took over our way of life, demanding and forcing that we act in a similar way to them, and not the other way around.
The change in the neighborhood’s character is clearly and directly the fault of the Haredi community, and your opinion doesn’t match the facts or the truth.
If this discourse disgusts you (and that may very well be), I suggest you look in the mirror, and at your friends in the Haredi community. Consider the commandments they adhere to because of the coercion of the rabbis, the treatment of women in the public sphere by Gur Hassidim [2], the behavior of Haredis on buses [3]. Maybe then you’ll understand that you completely misunderstood what you were complaining about, and that the secular abandonment is the inevitable course of a public that does not wish to live under a rabbinical regime, in any shape or form!”

– [In response to Ruthie Malul:] "Ruthie Malul, no one said that the Haredis are monsters, we’re all Jews. But the moment Haredis buy houses in secular neighborhoods, they expect sovereignty over the neighborhood. That is why the seculars leave. Take a look at what happened in Kiryat Yovel [neighborhood]: they don’t adapt themselves to the neighborhood’s character, an expect it to adapt itself to them. And the mayor cooperates with the Haredis’ whims."

– "Shameful city, and then we wonder why people move to Tel Aviv"

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0202 Editor's Notes:
[1] Examples of things that are prohibited by Judaism. Some of them may influence the public space, causing arguments between seculars Jews and Haredis.
[2] Gur is a strand within Hassidic Ultra-Orthodox (Haredi) Judaism. They are known for their strict adherence to rules that govern relations between the sexes, and among other things, prohibit them from looking at women on the street (a prohibition that causes some to shade their eyes when walking in the street).
[3] Some within the Haredi community wish to have separate seating on buses (men to sit in the front, women in the back). This has caused outrage outside the Haredi community in Israel, and has drawn much criticism to their treatment of women.

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